Cyprus Broadband Forum

since no one has talked in the thread for a long time it wont let me reply...

it says upgrades started july 2010? how come nicosia has not been upgraded yet? will it ever be upgraded or was it a fake text?

it was a rumor for july...the real thing is going to be done either december or january...the competitiors authority accepted their form for upgrade in september

thanks for replying...

seems weird that people claim they got these texts from cytanet, they where lying? why would cytanet send out texts and lie

thats what they thought since technicians are making the systems upgrades etc but only high ranks stuff really know the situations about new services etc

oh well....  i wish i lived in a cable area. but even if i did i am not sure i would pay 69 euros for 10mbits lol

do you know is there a website i can check how close i am to the exchange?

The latest I have regarding the upgrade is from a well placed Cyta source. The regulator has verbally agreed that they can upgrade from 1st December, this has yet to be confirmed in writing. In other words, the regulator is failing to do it's job yet again.

Perhaps everybody should contact the regulator by every means possible and ask them the same question, why they are dragging their heels in allowing Cyta to upgrade?

if they are going to start upgrading from 1st of december then they shall send mass emails to all customers 2-3 days before to inform and give instructions if needed...but i think last time they made a press release for the upgrade and new packages also...maybe next week unless they wont do it or the regulator pushed them for january

cytanet have never emailed me of upgrades. we got 1mbit to 2 for free but they said nothing before or after, i only found out when i notice i was downloading at twice the speed lol

Tis now the 1st of December and thus far I'm not seeing any speed increase. There is also no announcement on Cyta or Cytanet's webpages. Looks like the Ministry for the Retardation of the Internet aka "the regulator" has once again screwed the consumer over.

Cyta are definitely ready though, checking the modem out I noticed:

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:   999 / 9.814

Did the usual logoff/logon and still nothing.

eshi jiero pou sto modem dixni parapano bandwidth..alopos tha tus epepse o rithmistis genari na kamun upgrade..to provlima en oti arxes genari eshi argies adies party pios ena ta kami:p

akrivos, poios ena ta kami? alopos telos tou genari pou en tha exoun adies. en lio gliora twra gia upgrades. emena eipan mou se email genari.. all en viazoume gia 8mbit exw 4mbit k en polla mpaino mesto internet.

ime kai makria pou to adsl exchange ena ime tixeros an piaso full 8mbit

perimenun tipikes leptomeries,episima tin egkrisi tu ri8misti gia na boresun na anakinosun ta nea paketa/times

pou eixame upgrades 1 se 2mbit emena en mou eipan tpt, potte en m laloun tpt oute se email oute se minima .. tpt. apla 1 imera irta spiti kai eida oti pou ekatevasa tenia itan 220kb anti 110kb k lalo ma ti ginete? lol


k nmz en tha stieloun email pale alla twra ime agglia ws 8 tou genari kai elpizo ws pou na paw piso ena exw 8mbit :D... twra exw 50 stin agglia sto 3enodoxeio pou ime.

kai 768kbit upload en kalo... alal pou na ksana kamoun upgrades 8mbit se 10 i 16 se 2 i 3 xronia ena tous po oxi lol gia emena en tha piaso parapano apo 8mbit epd ime 2.55km pou to exchange.. kai me adsl ama ise makria an tha deis taxitites pano apo Xmbit.. exartate poso makria ise dld 3km isws ena dw ws 8mbit parapano (5-6km) ws 4mbit, giauto protimo cable kai perimeno na valoun cable sto xwrko mu... potte! LOL

8imume estilan email...bori na epie spam esena;p amen piani full speed na tus pis na se valun sto proigumeno paketo na men pieronis ta extra


kame ena modem me shioni je ferto piso bori na pianis je parapano speed:P stin aggklia mono enas isp eshi 50mbit oi aloi ouloi exun os ta 20 nmz je pou ta 20 pianun 14... tora ena xekinisun je oi ipolipoi na kamnun upgrade tes ipodomes tus gia parapano...

nai swsta mono ena stin agglia. virgin media. alla en cable :D kai adsl exoun 40mbit me 10mbit upload alla en business grammi... kai en 24 alla kkns en piani 24 me adsl.... se 2 i 3 xronia ena exoun oloi fibre

pou enarto piso ena ime happy me 8mbit :D

thelw ws 8mbit alla en thelw parapano.. nai en ekoitaxa sto spam folder

epitelous anakinosi...afiken tus o ri8mistis...1i fevrari ta upgrades je neo paketo 12 mbps

*estilan je email

Apo

1 -
2 -
3 Home512 – Μέχρι 512kbps/192kbps
4 Home1000 – 1Mbps/256kbps
5 Home2000 – 2Mbps/384kbps
6 Home4000 – 4Mbps/384kbps
7 -

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1 Home512 – Μέχρι 512kbps/256kbps
2 Home1000 – 1Mbps/384kbps
3 Home2000 – 2Mbps/512kbps
4 Home3000 – 3Mbps/512kbps
5 Home4000 – 4Mbps/512kbps
6 Home8000 – 8Mbps/768kbps
7 Home12000 – 12Mbps/768kbps

  Υφιστάμενα τέλη    Νέα τέλη
1 -                    €15,50
2 -                    €20,70
3 €26,45            €26,45
4 €33,36            €33,36
5 €43,70            €43,70
6 €58,00            €58,00
7 -                    €72,90

mnai eida to j egw simera!

Dear Customer,

Within the framework of our commitment for continuous improvement of our products and services, we are fulfilling our promises for new upgrades for our internet broadband products.

Specifically, from 1 February 2011, we will significantly increase the download and upload speeds of our existing Cytanet DSL Access Home and NetRunner Home broadband products. We will also be introducing new products with faster speeds of up to 12Mbps/768kbps. More details regarding the upgrades and the new products are given in the table below:

se 1 mina dld... :D oloi ena exoun upgrade oxa mono leukwsia i mono limassol? en lalei dame...

e koulli egw eida speed test sthm agglia k exoun 100mbit LOL  cable!!! stin londino me 10mbit upload

btw egw ena meino me 8mbit. epd ime 2.55km pou to exchange en tha dw 12mbit...

ena exw 100mbi stin agglia k stin kypro ena ime happy me 8 epd en eshei cable sto xwrko mu :(

en exoun ipothesi kanenas tous damesa. Jinos o GERIET en yia na troi mono. Antagonismos ke malakies. Ginete en eti 2011 na plironis yia ta 4MBits 59 euro (cyta price)? eto krata ti Primetel ke ti Cablenet mes to pexnidi. I primetel anakinose simera diplasiasmo taxititon dorean pu tin 1i tou Genari (2i fora se ena xrono). je i Cyta kathe tria xronia kamni m diplasiasmo je pale en pio akrivi epidi en tous afini o GERIMET.
klefkoun ton kosmo damesa ke en antidra kanenas.

simfono alla ... what to do?

It is blatantly obvious that the regulator has failed miserably. Despite a hostile regulatory environment as well as a few vociferous Cytaphobes, people are not leaving Cyta in their droves and going to Primetel.

Lets face it, the vast majority of "sheeple" just want a connection and all they care about is whether their latest Facebook Fetish actually works. It's only a few of the more hardcore users who actually understand what is happening.

are you going to upgrade to the 12mbit?

I'm not sure yet, just waiting for it to actually happen. To be honest, 8Mbit is pretty much a sweet spot as you can do practically everything. Anything beyond that is more for bigger downloading.

I don't have a problem with the distance to the exchange, I can almost throw rocks at it from the veranda. That said, there are technologies that negate the distance from the exchange, even over copper.

i am 2.55km away from it so i dont know if i will manage to receive 12mbit.. 8 maybe im 95% sure yes..

they dug up the roads in my village and they did not even put fibre lines damn them! for months and even today in my village the roads are still with huge holes.

i wish i could have cable.. for me the faster the better... but 8 will have to do

What actual difference will more speed make? I can already get streaming video fine. On a 4Mbit connection I can download an xvid rip in ~30 mins, higher quality in around an hour, I don't do DVD's or Blu-Rays as it seems pointless, kinda like the difference between downloading an album in mp3 format vs wav or flac, I certainly can't tell the difference. An 8Mbit connection will halve the time.

There are two things I have noticed as speed increases for us. Firstly that you eventually reach a point where there is very little left to download and secondly that download speed is also limited by the uplink speed of the person you are downloading from. In the vast majority of cases people are on asynchronous connections, meaning that their uplink is quite a bit slower than their downlink. Sure most P2P software can aggregate multiple connections to at least give the illusion of a fast download.

Primetel's 24 Mbit connections could well have a problem due to their really low uplink speed. This could well be an issue for all providers as it is my understanding that they can't deliver more than 1Mbit on the existing platforms. VDSL and GPON will allow those issues to be corrected. The other issue with a 24Mbit connection could well be due to the TV side of the triple play package as that too needs bandwidth.

speed can make a lot of difference... firstly if many house members use the internet.. ps3/xbox online gaming lots of pcs using the same connection downloading or doing different things... 30 minutes is a very long time for a simple xvid movie... and when you download every tv episode and movie released it takes even longer... 4mbit sucks..


upgrading very slowly at rip off prices.. there is always plenty to download. and never use p2p crap.. who still uses any of that crap? and the torrents suck too but some private torrents are hosted on 100mbit servers so you always download full speed. or 1gbit ftp dumps where you always get full speed... just the suckers who use crap like crapwire and think its good


ADSL is all about the distance from exchange and the crap copper lines we use in cyprus.. for instance if you live 3km away from the adsl exchange you will never download faster then about 6mbits... i am about 2.55 and i will be lucky to see 8mbit no matter if the isp give you a faster speed or not and not forgetting your phone line quality and hopefully one day we will have fibre in cyprus.

you have to be right next door to the exchange to see any decent speeds... 4mbit enough? no way not in a million years cable is better but adsl always give better upload speeds... though i never upload any more.. who uploads? i download around 10-15 tv episodes and any movies that are released new... and not from p2p lame crap ;)

atm i am in england until the 8th and i am maxing out my 50mbit connection

Downloading  everything purely for the sake of it somehow doesn't work for me, there are more things to do in life than watch every single TV series and movie that comes out, besides, there aren't enough hours in a day to watch them all. The only reason I can see for that level of downloading is as a dubious business by hawking pirate movies around pubs and markets. Most people on the Scene do not approve of making money from it.

Private trackers are the way to go with P2P for sure. As far as FTP downloads go, access to PreDB and the Scene does have it's advantages though I'm not so active these days due to work commitments. You do have to give something to get anything though and pubs don't always have the full catalogue.

Regarding Cyta's network infrastructure, if you actually paid attention you'd know that for the past 3-4 years they have been rolling out additional Remote DSLAM's and MSAN's which extend the range from the exchange way further than 3km, even over existing copper.

Dissing CYTA for the sake of it rather than acknowledging that the real villans are the bunch of lawyers sat in the regulator's office will do nothing to make things better. Cyta could offer GPON were they allowed to do so, they already have a pilot scheme operational in Archangelos with around 450 users connected, they will expand it further as and when the regulator allows them too.

GPON in case you don't understand the tech will allow Gigabit connectivity similar to what is available in most Scandinavian countries.

there is not one legit dvd store in cyprus and i never profit from any download, i watch them all maybe not in the same day but over a long period of time... as well as downloading firmwares iso's and many things, not forgetting in a lot of houses now everything is connected to the internet using a lot of bandwith..

but i never had a problem with cytanet just some times but not very often they have been very good to me.. i just hate adsl in general because i am not in a cable area..

i am going to be happy with 8mbit and stick with it.. i never had good experience with adsl and anything faster then 8mbit... i had 24mbit but copper wires meant no one ever recieved full speed even being right next to the exchange... i doubt these upgrades will change much.. but the connection is good and i think i will be happy and just stick with 8

I agree speed is overrated.
Browsing speed on 20 is just the same as it is on 1mbps.
If you need something big downloaded you don't sit and wait for it to download - you schedule it, usually overnight.
Does it matter if the download will finish at 2am or at 5am?
There is not one half decent streaming VOD provider in Europe and the American providers are restricted.
The only "use" of high speed bandwidth is with online gaming and I don't do it :D
Once people realize they don't need more than 1mbps the prices will go through the floor.
When providers can not compete with speeds - they will have to compete with prices!
So if you want lower prices - do like I did - teach the greedy providers a lesson - downgrade to 1!
Unless you are an online gamer - in that case you just have to wait to grow up ;D

lol en paeis kala... 1mbit ?!?!?! why not just downgrade to 56k then hahaha i would hate to be forced on a crappy 1mbit again.. 4mbit is bad enough. when you dont want to leave your computer on 24/7 especially for downloads.. its not good when you leave it on all the time it over heats then you start to have problems...

it does matter.. only if you really dont do much online.. i have to accept 8mbit because i know i cant receive more but when i move to england i will for sure be on the 100mbit virgin media :D they are rolling it out now so by 2012 every one in a cable area will have access to it

online gaming does not use so much but you need a better upload for online gaming

"Paliometoxo" pareta na faskeis je na antifaskeis monos sou...
Pou tin mia laleis oti eneshis kanena provlima me tin Cyta je pou tin alli "cyta sucks" , "4mbit sucks" "copper sucks" etc etc .. apofasise ...

Laleis en s areskei to ADSL genika je 8eleis cable... diladi en na valeis cablenet stin periptosi tis kiprou... pou ka8e xrono lifkei tous to bandwidth je litourga san to 56k oula tous ta paketa. En i moni eteria p kamnei upggrades sta speed je meta to bandwidth ... lol. Me 2-3 Gbit international bandwidth na doume posous en na valoun panw

Anw ... oulloi mes touto to forum klesin gia to speed ... en evre8ike ena plasma na milisei gia RELIABILITY. Poso sixna kofkete to connection, an eixan kapio provlima etc.
 

en lalo oti i cytanet "sucks" im saying copper lines and 4mbit sucks... thats not cytas fault ;)

thats adsl in general

Hi  Folks!
Been browsing some of your forums as I am considering visiting Cyprus for a few years. WOW, you guys certainly seem to have a backward Government department which 'controls' your internet progress! And I thought Cyprus was a progressive country!!! Even here in seriously backward Mexico where corruption is an artform, we start at 4M /512 upload and go up from there! And it is much cheaper than Cyprus . . .
Looks like your 'regulator' may have a larger bank balance than he is declaring? Must be some seriously vested interest somwhere . . .
 I notice that Ericsson announced their Cyprus products back in 2007 (With FTTH, the access network is able to deliver a speed of 10Mb/s, 100 Mbps and even 1 Gbps) and yet nothing seems to have happened since? Or have I got it all wrong? ::)

we already have 4mbits and 8mbits and even 20mbits on cable and adsl with 24mbits so we are not far behind, maybe a few years but what do you exppect from a country with a population of less then a million

Our home connection was down this morning, no idea if it is back online yet or upgraded. At work the Business connection is still at the former speed with some latency and packet loss during the morning. Anybody seen the advertised upgraded speed yet?

still the same and working fine but in other area a friend told me he has connection problems

A friend in another area of Limassol said theirs was down for most of the morning, they seem to think theirs is now upgraded. Ours at home is back online, apparently not stable (same situation as in the office) The office is definitely not upgraded yet.

emena den egine upgrade apo 2 sta 4
phra thlefwno sto 132 kai mou eipan oti to upgrade ginetai stadiaka kai 8a oloklhrw8ei mexri tis 10 fevrouariou se olh thn kypro.
mou eipan na tous dwsw to thlefwno mou, koitasan kai mou eipan h allagh s'emena 8a ginei 8 fevrouariou.

So, keep waiting :)

btw marth kleinw Sta8ero, i-choice, dslaccess kai paw kavlenet :P
kleiw kai 2 mobile kai paw MTN
arketa me thn cyta na mas exei opws tous skylous me 65 euro ta 4mbit otan sthn ellada h cyta xrewnei 38 euro gia 24mbit, 2 thlefwnikes grammes kai dwrean klhseis entos elladas.
(http://www.cyta.gr/uploads/images/117.png)

i will give you 10000 euros if you manage to download any where near 24mbit speed with adsl...

kame login sto www.cytanet.com.cy emena laleo oti exw 8000 alla it still download with 4mbit

Ekaman 8 mhnes na enkrinoun thn CYTA gia na kanei anavathmisi sta 8Mbps tziai perimenhs na sou dwsh 24...
Den ftaih CYTA alla o rithmistis.
Oso gia MTN kai allous ISP diavase sto forum na deis oti exoun kai aytoi polla provlimata.

oute 12mbit en thelw... epd ime 2.55km pou to local adsl exchange simeni oti i wont see more then isws 7-8mbits.. ama ise makria pou to exchange de tha deis potte parapano apo Xmbit... exartate poso makria ise

auto to kserw alla den einai apolyto. an eisai poly konta katevazeis full.
egw eimai poly konta kai me th 2mbit (=256k) katevazw me 248-250k
outws h allws den ennoousa oti 8elw 24mbit (siga pou den 8elw  ;D ) alla milw gia tis times pou exei.

8 mbit 16 euro. an einai dynaton!!!!

a nai swsta!

egw exw 4mbit kai eimai 2.55km pou to exchange k leei oti twra exw 8mbit,  Service  Netrunner 8000, kai twra exoun 12mbit alla makari na katevaso me full 8mbit lol. alla me 24mbit pale an ise dipla pou to exchange en tha deis 24mbit.

oi times? egw plirono 50 euro gia 8mbit twra :/

an ine 8mbit gia 16 euro ena allaxo isp!    protimo cable alla sto paliometoxo mono adsl exei.

oxi file mou. 8mbit me 16 euro ta exei h cyta sthn ellada ki oxi h cablenet edw. ase pou alloi dinoun 24mbit me 20 euro sthn ellada.

http://www.cyta.gr

mono emas mas sfazoun kai na skefteis oti to 2001 pou hmoun ellada kai tous elega oti exoume DSL sthn kypro nomizan oti tous milousa gia UFO giati tote arxizan na vazoun tis ISDN

nai kai stin agglia exoun 50mbit gia 40 lires, cable omos oxi adsl. kai ws 2012 100mbit. alla exei perioxes pou exoun 100mbit kai twra.. virgin media

nai apla egw kamnw sygkrisi cyta kyprou me cyta elladas kyriws gia times.
px h 8mbit sthn cyta kyprou einai (57,50 euro DSLaccess + 29,90 euro netrunner + 16,02 h thlefonikh grammh) = 103,42 euro gia mia grammh 8mbit

sthn ellada h cyta gia 8mbit xrewnei 19 euro
dhladh miloume gia 5plasies times

Μα φυσικά.
Ένας λογος είναι ότι στην Ελλάδα έχουν διαφορετικό πιο νεας τεχνολογίας δύκτιο από την Κύπρο. Ολες οι υπηρεσίες είναι σε IP δύκτιο και τα κόστα είναι πολύ πιο χαμηλά. Απο εξοπλισμό μέχρι προσωπικό.
Όπως έχουν και άλλοι ISP στη Κύπρο (Primetel , Otenet)
Η τηλεφωνία που παρέχουν βγαίνει απο αναλογικές πορτες του μοντεμ.


Στην Κύπρο η τηλεφωνία της CYTA είναι καθαρά αναλογικά και θέλεις φίλτρο να χωρίσεις το dsl από τη φωνή. Ο εξοπλισμός για την αναλογική τηλεφωνία είναι γνωστό ότι στοιχίζει.
Ναι έχει χτίσει και στη Κύπρο IP δύκτιο αλλά δεν θα πουληση την μια υπηρεσία σε βάρος της άλλης. Ισως κάποτε τα γυρίσουν ολα σε IP. Συν το ότι έχει ψηλούς μισθούς και αρκετό προσωπικό να πληρώσει :)

i have been upgraded but i still get 4mbits only, i think its this rubbish blue modem thats why. they need to send me a hub or something

Then how do you know you have been upgraded?

when you go to www.cytanet.com.cy and login it says what service you have... emena lalei

Service  Netrunner 8000..

also i emailed customer service and they told me i was upgraded but i think my rubbish blue modem does not allow speeds of 8mbit.

je mena allaxe jino pou ta xtes alla to speed n to idio me aspro modem...epd alaxe jinto info jiame enjie simeni oti ekaman su je to speed..je to bandwidth eshi mines pou alaxen mesta settings alla enjie ixamen to..pou na gini ena fani...ekarteras toso jiero antexe alo lies meres...opos ipe jenas pio pano os tes 10 fevrari ena ta kamun oula...pou na gini bori na men dulefki to internet je na theli login sto ichoice

nai etsi eskeftika kai egw, alla pou tous esteila email eipan mou oti to adsl exchange mou egine upgrade kai pou ekama speed test anti na deixnei 4mbit deixnei 5mbit me .80 upload.. simaini oti to modem pou exw en malakia exei xronia pou to exw. apsro? alopos exeis hub esi.

esi apo pou ise? emena to adsl exchange mou einai sto xwrko dipla sto kokkinotrimithia

lefkosia..egine simera emena...en edulefke to internet ekama ena restart tu modem je login ichoice

emena ipan mou 8 tou minos:/ lefkosia (strovolos)

me too alla en anteksa ston peirasmo kai epiasa tous thlefwno kai ekama thn 1mbps kai eipa tous na men thn kamoun upgrade se 3. gia na men pw oti hmoun etoimos na tous pw gia 512kbit

evala kai 3G sto mobile gia na exw skype mes to autokinhto kai kanei tous.

i guess i was not upgraded because today the speed went up, but i am 2.55km away from the exchange and this is the speed i get.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1147850717.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

this is pretty much what i was expecting with this rubbish blue modem and my distance from the exchange

its not that bad but yea, you could use a better modem :p

egw ekama downgrade apo 2mbit pou 8a ginontan 4mbit kai egina 1mbit. (an rwtate giati, einai giati se ena mhna 8a eimai se cable me 10)

koitate test. ais8anomai na eimai mesa sth CYTA afou deixnei panw apo 1mbit  ;D
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1146407040.png)

lol tixere..! an emporesa na exw cable sto spiti itan na piaso k egw cable all 20mbit ;p

kati den paei kala. ekama twra allo test kai...
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1155022271.png)


8a mas pellanei

Koitaksete tis hmeromhnies pou ekama ta pio panw post edw sto forum.
Eixa DSL 2000
1 Fevrouariou eipan mou oti to upgrade 8a ginei stis 8 fevrouariou
4 Fevrouariou zhthsa h 2mbps na ginei 1 kai oxi 4

shmera mou hr8an oi logariasmoi
Syndromi DSL Access Home 1000
+
Syndromi DSL Access Home 4000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+
Syndromi Netrunner 4000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Avrio 8a tous piasw thlefwno na dw pws 8a dikaiologh8oun.
Egw zhthsa thn ypova8mish prin exw anava8misi kai autoi anava8misan to logariasmo.
Eftyxws pou exoun hxografimenes kai tes klhseis gia na doun oti exw dikaio.

milisa me th cyta kai afou mou eipan ena swro vlakeies. kataliksame na mou poun oti einai diko mou to la8os kai oti zhthsa na ginei ypova8misi ths DSL ACCESS kai oxi kai tou netrunner.
tous eipa na akousoun thn hxografisi pou eixa thlefwnhsei stis 4 fevrouariou pou eipa ka8ara oti 8elw na ginei ypova8misi kai sta dyo kai na exw to paketo twn 20,70 euro

Shmera me phran thlefwno kai mou eipan oti ontws htan apo la8os ths ypallhlou pou den kataxwrhse thn allagh KAI sto netrunner (me eixan mexri shmera sto 4000)
8a mou pistosoun to logariasmo me ta lefta ths diaforas  ;D

telika oi axristoi ths cyta eksakolou8oun tis vlakeies. sto logariasmo fevrouariou htan xrewmeno netrunner 1000 kai 4000.
sto logariasmo martiou htan xrewmeno to dslaccess 1000 kai 4000. kai stis 30 martiou ekana diakopi genikws apo th cyta kai paredosa to modem 31 martiou. plhrwsa ta panta kai....
ton aprilio vlepw apo ebill xrewsh dslaccess xwris na thn exw.

ΠΕΡΙΓΡΑΦΗ ΧΡΕΩΣΗΣ   ΠΟΣΟ (€)
DSL Access Home 1000-Συνδρομή   10,52
ΟΛΙΚΟ   10,52
Φ.Π.Α.   1,58
ΣΥΝΟΛΟ:   12,1

Η CYTA ποτε δεν κανει το ίδιο λάθος. ΠΑΝΤΑ ΚΑΙΝΟΥΡΙΑ!!!!!!!!!